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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCorrespondence Regarding Water Issue with Town of CarbondaleDave Argo From: Andy Schwaller Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 2:20 PM To: kschorzman@carbondaleco.net Cc: Dave Argo Subject: FW: Carbondale-CRMS Water Service Agreement Thanks Kevin for the clarification. I forwarded your message for the file. Wer l93voc„, TOwm of From: Kevin Schorzman [mailto:] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 2:13 PM To: Sheryl Bower <sbower@garfield-county.com>; Andy Schwaller <aschwaller@garfield-county.com> Cc: Jay Harrington <jharrington@carbondaleco.net>; Fred Jarman <fjarman@garfield-county.com>; Joe White <jwhite@crms.org> Subject: [External] RE: Carbondale-CRMS Water Service Agreement All, Following my e-mail below, CRMS shared their plans for the Solar Dorm remodel project with the Town. The Town was able to determine that the proposed work does not increase the water demand beyond what existed previously. Therefore, the Town has no objection to the issuance of this permit as it will not increase water demand. We have asked CRMS to provide a letter from the Fire Department indicating that they believe the pressures and flows to the fire suppression system will be adequate for it to operate in case of an emergency. CRMS has indicated their willingness to provide that letter. Therefore, from the Town's perspective, we have no reason to ask for a delay in the review or issuance of the permit for the Solar Dorm. While we are okay with the proposed work on the Solar Dorm project, we have still not reached an agreement on expansion of future water service on the CRMS campus so future projects will be handled on a case-by-case basis, with no guarantee of approval of expansion, until such time as an overarching agreement can be reached. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Kevin From: Kevin Schorzman Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 2:54 PM To: 'sbower@garfield-county.com' <sbower@ garfield-countv.com>; 'aschwaller@garfield-county.com' <aschwaller@garfield-countv.com> Cc: Jay Harrington <jharrington@carbondaleco.net>; 'fjarman@garfield-county.com' <fjarman@garfield-countv.com>; 'Joe White' <iwhite@crms.org> Subject: Carbondale-CRMS Water Service Agreement All, This e-mail is being written to update you on the status of the water service agreement between the Town and CRMS. As you may know, the Town and CRMS have been working toward a formal agreement related to expansion of water service to the CRMS campus for several years due to the long standing moratorium on out-of-town water taps. Recently, the negotiations have stalled. We just want to make you aware that there is currently no agreement in place that would allow expansion of CRMS's current water service beyond what it is now. What this means is that any addition to an existing building, change of use of a building, or construction of additional buildings which would increase the overall water usage at CRMS, will have to be negotiated between the Town and CRMS on a case by case basis with no guarantee of approval. This e-mail should not be interpreted in a way to suggest that the Town would generally deny any expansion of the system, rather, proposed expansion will have to be discussed and code requirements at the time will need to be met prior to allowing expansion of water service on the campus. If, in the future, we are able to come to an agreement with CRMS related to water service, we will share that with you. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Kevin 2 Dave Argo From: Andy Schwaller Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 11:39 AM To: Joe White Cc: Dave Argo Subject: FW: Carbondale-CRMS Water Service Agreement Joe, We have a building permit in the Que (Solar Dorm) that it appears pertains to this email from the city. Can you provide any color to the situation? Thanks, Andy From: Kevin Schorzman [mailto:kschorzman@carbondaleco.net] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 2:54 PM To: Sheryl Bower <sbower@garfield-county.com>; Andy Schwaller <aschwaller@garfield-county.com> Cc: Jay Harrington <jharrington@carbondaleco.net>; Fred Jarman <fjarman@garfield-county.com>; Joe White <jwhite@crms.org> Subject: [External Email] Carbondale-CRMS Water Service Agreement All, This e-mail is being written to update you on the status of the water service agreement between the Town and CRMS. As you may know, the Town and CRMS have been working toward a formal agreement related to expansion of water service to the CRMS campus for several years due to the long standing moratorium on out-of-town water taps. Recently, the negotiations have stalled. We just want to make you aware that there is currently no agreement in place that would allow expansion of CRMS's current water service beyond what it is now. What this means is that any addition to an existing building, change of use of a building, or construction of additional buildings which would increase the overall water usage at CRMS, will have to be negotiated between the Town and CRMS on a case by case basis with no guarantee of approval. This e-mail should not be interpreted in a way to suggest that the Town would generally deny any expansion of the system, rather, proposed expansion will have to be discussed and code requirements at the time will need to be met prior to allowing expansion of water service on the campus. If, in the future, we are able to come to an agreement with CRMS related to water service, we will share that with you. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Kevin 1 Dave Argo From: Joe White <jwhite@crms.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 2:59 PM To: Andy Schwaller Cc: Dave Argo Subject: [External Email] Re: FW: Carbondale-CRMS Water Service Agreement Attachments: 1999 Correspondence_CRMS-TOC.pdf Andy, This matter has no bearing on the Solar Dorm project which is already connected to Town services and not at all in dispute. In fact, the Town is probably not even aware of the Solar Dorm remodel project. This communication from the Town was not expected and CRMS now has some work to do to clarify the arrangement for future campus expansion. In the meantime, should we seek additional water and sewer taps, you can rely on the attached letter as we have done since 1999. Please let me know if you have any further questions. Regards, Joe On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 11:39 AM Andy Schwaller<aschwaller@garfield-county.com> wrote: Joe, We have a building permit in the Que (Solar Dorm) that it appears pertains to this email from the city. Can you provide any color to the situation? Thanks, Andy Larry Green Balcomb & Green, P.C. P.O. Drawer 790 Glenwood Springs, CO 81601 Town of Carbondale 511 Colorado Avenue Carbondale, CO 81623 January 13, 1999 Re: Water & Sewer Service to Colorado Rocky Mountain School Dear. Larry: (970) 963-2733 FAX (970) 963-9140 The Carbondale Board of Trustees requested that I respond to your January 8th letter requesting that the Town clarify its position with respect to providing water and wastewater services to the Colorado Rocky Mountain School campus. We understand that the school has completed a Master Plan, which envisions expansion of the campus. This letter is to assure you that the Town of Carbondale is committed to providing water and wastewater service to additional school facilities identified in the Master Plan. The school would be required to pay the applicable tap fees associated with any expansion and the resultant service fees. Depending upon the location of facilities served, the school may need to extend Town utility lines to these locations and provide the Town easements for their maintenance. Your engineers will want to coordinate these improvements with the Town utility staff. We also understand that the facilities being serviced with Town utilities will be located on or near the main campus, east of the Crystal River and that no Town service is contemplated for school facilities west of the Crystal River. We wish you the best of success with your expansion plans and look forward to working with you. cc: Board of Trustees Jim Laframboise LeAnn Eustis 01/08/99 11:14 $970 945 9769 LARRY GREEN l]Uo2■003 JOHN A. THULSON EDWARD MULHALL. JR. SCOTT BALCOMB LAWRENCE R. GREEN TIMOTHY A. THULSON LORI J.M. SATTERFIELD EDWARD B. OLSZEWSKI DAVID SANDOVAL DENDY M.HEISEL CHRISTOPHER L. COYLE BALCOMB & GREEN, P.C. ATTORNEYS AT LAW (FORMERLY DELANEY E. BALCOMH, P,C.) P. O. DRAWER 790 818 COLORADO AVENUE GLENWOOD SPRINGS, COLORADO 81602 Telephone: 970.945.6546 Facsimile: 970.945.9769 VIA FACSIMILE TO: (970) 963-9140 Mark Chain Planning Director Town of Carbondale 511 Colorado Avenue Carbondale, CO 81623 Dear Mark: January 8, 1999 Re: Colorado Rocky Mountain SchooA OF COUNSEL: KENNETH BALCOMS I am writing in regard to Colorado Rocky Mountain School. As we have discussed, CRMS presently has pending before Garfield County an application for conditional use permit. The reason for the application is that although schools are allowed as a conditional use in the applicable Garfield County Zone District, CRMS predates the zoning and is thus a pre-existing nonconforming use. Recently, CRMS applied for a building permit to relocate an existing dormitory and construct a new faculty apartment on the relocated dorm. The request for building permit was denied, because County staff took the position that it would be an unlawful expansion of a pre-existing nonconforming use. Garfield County staff requested that CRMS obtain a conditional use permit for the school and suggested that a school "master plan" be the basis of the permit. For that reason, as well as for the reason that CRMS was independently engaged in an exercise to plan for its future, the school adopted the CRMS Campus Master Plan, a copy of which I have previously provided to you. The Master Plan envisions the growth of CRMS to a maximum of 250 students, which would be an increase of approximately 83 students above today' s population. It identifies locations for new classroom space, dormitory space, faculty housing and support facilities that would be needed to serve the expanded population. I would also add that many of these new facilities are desired in order to maintain and improve the quality of the education and living experience for the existing student population, regardless of whether or not there is an actual increase in student population. Furthermore, even the modest increase in student population envisioned by the Master Plan is 01/08/99 11:15 $970 945 9769 LARRY GREEN BALCoME & GREEN, P.C. ATTORNEYS AT LAW Mark Chain Ii003/003 January 8, 1999 Page 2 expected to occur over the next twenty years. As I understand the County's position, if the conditional use permit is approved under the terms of the school's Master Plan, then the school can obtain a building permit for any facility identified in the Master Plan without further land use review. To date we have appeared before the Garfield County Planning and Zoning Commission on the school's application for a conditional use permit. The P&Z recommended approval, upon a list of conditions. One of those conditions, originally recommended by County staff, is that prior to any approval by the Board of County Commissioners, the applicant "submit a written statement from the Town of Carbondale, stating that water and sewer service can be provided for the proposed school expansions." The purpose of this letter is to formally request that written statement from the Town. As you will see from the Master Plan, the proposed location for all new and expanded facilities, except for limited faculty housing on the west side of the Crystal River (which will be served by individual well and septic), is located in the proximity of the existing campus core, which is presently receiving water and sewer service from the Town. We therefore believe, that subject to payment of any applicable tap fee, the Town would be willing and able to provide water and sewer service to any new or expanded CRMS facility identified in the Master Plan. We therefore request that the Town issue the appropriate letter to Garfield County indicating the availability of water and sewer service. From our previous discussions, it is my understanding that this matter will be discussed with the Trustees on Tuesday, January 12, 1999, under the manager's report. I will plan on attending to answer any questions the Trustees may have. In the meantime, if you have any questions or comments, please contact me. LRG/bc xc: Jim Laframboise LeAnn Eustis Very truly yours, BALCOMB & GREEN, P.C. Lawrence R. Green X7.2L1' Dave Argo From: Andy Schwaller Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 4:20 PM To: Joe White Cc: Sheryl Bower; Fred Jarman; Dave Argo Subject: RE: [External Email] Re: FW: Carbondale-CRMS Water Service Agreement Attachments: 1999 Correspondence_CRMS-TOC.pdf; Permit submittal.pdf Joe, Thanks for the quick response. It is hard for the county to interpret how the various communications old and new might affect the present application. It would appear the structure has an addition of almost 200 sq.ft. which would not require any additional water. The issue could be the addition of a larger water main to the structure for the new fire sprinkler system. See attached information from the submitted set we are reviewing. Hopefully the sprinklers will not be needed, but this would appear to increase the required water from the city system and constitute a change to the water system. This new section of water main will more than likely require inspections by the city. It appears an email or letter from the city prior to construction might keep things from being an issue during construction which can cause additional cost and other hardships to the project. It could be the water issue gets kicked upstairs for further review on a higher level than the Building Department. We will wait for further direction before we issue the building permit. We will finish up the review of the permit application, so it is ready to issue once the above has been addressed. Andy From: Joe White [mailto:jwhite@crms.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 3:02 PM To: Andy Schwaller <aschwaller@garfield-county.com> Cc: Dave Argo <dargo@garfield-county.com> Subject: [External Email] Re: FW: Carbondale-CRMS Water Service Agreement Andy, This matter has no bearing on the Solar Dorm project which is already connected to Town services and not at all in dispute. In fact, the Town is probably not even aware of the Solar Dorm remodel project. This communication from the Town was not expected and CRMS now has some work to do to clarify the arrangement for future campus expansion. In the meantime, should we seek additional water and sewer taps, you can rely on the attached letter as we have done since 1999. Please let me know if you have any further questions. Regards, Joe design/build scope proj is and report 1. FIRE SPRINKLERS: Complete fire sprinkler system shall PROJECT arification be provided in accordance with the requirements of NFPA 13R. System shall be provided on a Design/Build basis. Fire DESCRIPTIO sprinkler subcontractor shall subnniil fur approval design s, grades drawings, calculations Arid manufacturer's product data. Provision of fire sprinkler system will require the installation of PROJECT A new water service piping as needed to meet system pressure hown take and flow requirements. Contractor shall obtain nearest ZONE DISTI hydrant pressure and flow data from the Carbondale and Rural Fire Protection District or, If necessary arrange for i for hydrant testing to obtain that data. LOT SIZE 2. FIRE ALARM & NOTIFICATION SYSTEM: Existing smoke APPLICABL :ed, the detection and alarm system shall be modified and extended to 'es, accommodate fire sprinkler system requirements as well as s are system upgrades required by the AHJ. System shall be mined by the provided on a Design/Build basis. Alarm subcontractor shall submit for approval design drawings and manufacturer's )ject to product data. 3. PLUMBING: Plumbing fixtures and fittings shown and OCCUPANC rs, bracing, specified on the Drawings provide the "Basis of Design" for re installation plumbing system additions and alterations. Plumbing CONSTRUC )ries, and all Subcontractor shall design system and provide all drain, gal or waste, vent and supply piping in accordance with governing FIRE SPRIN Codes and local best practices. Plumbing Subcontractor shall determine best methods for extending existing sanitary and ubgrade by domestic hot and cold water supply to the proposed icrete alterations. Subcontractor shall submit for Architect's review IBC BUILDIP and approval manufacturer's submittal information for all fixtures and fittings. )ctural, 4. HEATING: The existing heating system consists of a the drawings relatively new high -efficiency gas-fired boiler and fin tube ontract for baseboard radiators. Modification of the existing heating teen the system shall be provided on a Design/Build basis. Prior to it selective building demolition, Common Room fin tube n or radiators shall be removed and stored for reinstallation. stencies are Associated heating supply and return piping shall be provide the extended and/or re-routed to accommodate the Common R000m addition. )ncrete, 5. ELECTRICAL: Electrical devices, equipment and lighting fixtures shown and specified on the Drawings provide the 'Basis of Design' for the electrical work. Building power is rte slab, presently fed by underground service from the Lodge Dorm. Electrical Subcontractor shall': .ted from a. Coordinate with Owner and Xcel Energy to change source of coatings, of main service feed from the Lodge Dorm to the Jossman Building. b. Design and provide service switchgear, panelboards, Iectrical circuiting and controls in accordance with governing Codes access and local best practices. confirmed c. Reconfigure service entry and main panel in mechanical room to accommodate revised wall layout. d. Provide lighting and power circuits to proposed additions existing and alterations. sting 'tractor shall Subcontractor shall submit for Architect's review and approval tarpaulins manufacturer's submittal information for all switchgear, panelboards, fixtures, devices and device cover plates. IBC BUILDIt IECC CLIMP Dave Argo From: Joe White <jwhite@crms.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 4:41 PM To: Andy Schwaller Cc: Sheryl Bower; Fred Jarman; Dave Argo Subject: [External Email] Re: Re: FW: Carbondale-CRMS Water Service Agreement Andy, I am so sorry about the unfortunate timing of Kevin's email. We only coordinate with them when we are adding or subtracting - which we are not with the Solar Dorm project. The Town of Carbondale's table for calculating system improvements (i.e. expansion) does not consider square footage for dormitory uses. It is based on bed count which is not changing. Also, their table specifies zero EQRs for fire sprinklers. Again, no expansion in our project. Furthermore, the water "main" is CRMS (i.e. privately owned) infrastructure that should not require any inspection by the Town. I will reach out to Kevin and ask him to get in touch with you to verify all this. We will have just 13 weeks between graduation and the start of the school year to complete the project. Please help us out to the extent you can. Thanks, Joe