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From: Dave Argo
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 8:42 AM
To: Carla Ostberg (carla.ostberg@gmail.com)
Cc: Ikrol@garfield-county.com; Andy Schwaller (aschwaller@garfield-county.com)
Subject: Permit #BLRE-11-20-6571 - Building Ht. Problem
Attachments: Bldg Ht Calculation.pdf; Ostberg Bldg Ht Redlines.pdf
Carla:
We have recently reviewed plans submitted for a new S.F. residence located at Pinyon Peaks, Lot 10 as well as another
permit for an ADU/Pole Barn for this property. The building permit for the ADU/Barn are approved and you will be
receiving a call from Lindsay later today regarding final balances due and pick-up instructions for that project.
However, before we can issue a building permit for the primary residence, there is an outstanding issue regarding
overall building height which must first be addressed. More specifically, as currently designed the building height
exceeds the 25 -foot maximum allowable height above pre -construction grades. Perhaps your designer did not fully
understand how Garfield County defines and calculates "building height" according to our Land Use & Development
Code, and to assist you in making necessary adjustments to come into compliance I have attached a 2 -page description
of how the Building Dept. confirms compliance with our requirements (see attached PDF).
In addition, I have also included my redlines of the elevation + building sections of your new residence to further clarify
the discrepancy between your design and the problem it currently has in meeting this maximum building height (see 11
x 17 scanned images attached).
Please work together with your designer to come up with alternative design that complies with our requirements and
submit a new compliant design so that we can finalize our plan review and issue a permit once this issue has been
resolved. If you or your designer should desire to discuss this issue further, please feel free to call or email directly.
However, I should note that I will be out of the office the remainder of today, but available first thing on Monday
morning.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Dave Argo
Plans Examiner
. Garfield County
Community Development Department
108 8th Street, Suite 401
Glenwood Springs, CO 81601
Tel: 970-945-8212 Ext. 1610
Email: dargo@garfield-county.com
Web: Barfield-county.com
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108 Eighth Street, Suite 401, Glenwood Springs, CO 81601
Tel: (970) 945-8212, Fax: (970) 384-3470
Building Height Definition and Calculation Procedure
As defined in Garfield County Land Use & Development Code (Article 15, Definitions):
Height, Building — The distance, measured vertically, from the average undisturbed or
natural ground grade horizontal plane of a structure footprint to the top of a flat roof or
mansard roof or to the mid -point between the eave line and the peak of a gable, hip,
shed, or similar pitched roof.
In order to measure distances and calculate building height according to the preceding definition, one
must first establish the average natural grade plane of the subject project site. Subsequent calculations
of building height all reference this benchmark, and this flat plane elevation is determined by averaging
out the existing site grades (typically illustrated as topographic contour lines) on the site plan. Using a
simplistic rectangular floor plan as an example, existing site grades at all four corners of the building
footprint are added together and divided by 4, thereby establishing the average natural grade plane
elevation (see illustration below).
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Average Natural Grade Elevation:
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"Average Natural Grade" is used in calculating Building Height
With more complex building footprint configurations, a greater number of building corners will be
employed, but the intent remains the same: to define the average natural grade elevation within the
confines of the building footprint. Flatter lots will see very little difference between existing site grades
at the building corners, whereas steeply sloping lots will have greater variation between building
corners. However, the result in both situations will be establishment of a flat horizontal plane which
represents average pre -construction grades at the project site prior to any proposed development.
Measuring Building Height above Average Natural Grade Plane
To the extent that the designer provides clear delineation of the existing natural grade plane and
measurements to roofs above, it will help facilitate speedy review and confirmation of building height
during the plan review of the project. Design drawings that illustrate building height most clearly will
typically Include exterior elevations and building sections.
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It is recommended that all buildings be designed a minimum of several inches lower than absolute
maximum building height, as there are design and construction tolerances which must be accounted for
in any project. If design drawings indicate that roofs are within 12" of the maximum building height, the
Building Department will require a Building Height Survey (aka Improvement Location Certificate) at
framing inspection, sealed and stamped by a Colorado licensed professional Surveyor to insure that the
building has, in fact, been built in compliance with building height requirements.
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Dave Argo
Frain: Carla Ostberg <carla.ostberg@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, December 4 2020 10:32 AM
To: Dave Argo; Steve Ostberg
Cc: Lindsay Krok Andy Schwaller
Subject: Re: [External] Permit#BLRE-11-20-6571 - Building Ht Problem
Thanks Dave!
We'II get to work on the revisions to comply with the height. We were already discussing lowering by
2', so it shouldn't be too difficult to make the adjustment. Also, digging is easier than anticipated!
I am always impressed with Garfield County's Building Department and how efficient, responsive, and
helpful everyone is!!!!! It's a pleasure working with all the staff!!!
Thanks again and we'll let you know if we h ave any questions as we work through this.
Carla Ostberg
CBO Septic Consulting
970.309.5259
Office
981Crn enDii , B-7
Caitondale, CO 81623
Mailing
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Carbondale, CO 81623
Dave Argo
From: Bruce Stolbach <cadcode@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 2:36 PM
To: Dave Argo
Cc: Steve Ostberg; Carla Ostberg
Subject: [External] RE: Permit #BLRE-11-20-6571 - Building Ht. Problem
Attachments: OstbergHouse-2018-RevBldgHt-12-13-20.1.pdf
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Completed
Hi Dave, Carla, Steve and I have been working together on the plans and at the site, and, have made revisions to the
main house plan to resolve the height issue. Please look them over and confirm that the house as now proposed is in
compliance. We will then bring in the revised hard copies the county needs. Thanks Bruce
Bruce Stolbach
Cadfidh LLC
970-618-0230 cell
cadcode@hotmail.com email
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From: Carla Ostberg
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 10:25 AM
To: Bruce; Steve Ostberg
Subject: Fwd: Permit #BLRE-11-20-6571 - Building Ht. Problem
Hi Bruce,
Here are the comments from Garfield county. Looks like we need to figure out how to lose 3' 6" off
the height.
Tim Hagist, our excavator, can meet us on site pretty much any time next week. He comes up once
a day to check on his guys anyhow.
We discussed already lowering the building by 2' which puts us right at grade on the south side of
the house, so we need to figure how how to adjust by another 1' 6"
We starting grading already and are digging footers for the ADU now. Building corners are all
staked by a surveyor, so it's pretty easy to see where things go. Let us know when you might be
able to meet on site to discuss.
Thanks!
Carla Ostberg
CBO Septic Consulting
970.309.5259
Office
981 Cowen Drive, B-7
Carbondale, CO 81623
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Dave Argo
From: Bruce Stolbach <cadcode@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 3:04 PM
To: Dave Argo
Cc: Carla Ostberg; Steve Ostberg
Subject: [External] FW: Ostberg Res. Revised Bldg Ht. Plan - Permit #BLRE-11-20-6571 -
Building Ht.
Attachments: OstbergHouse-2018-RevBldgHt-12-15-20.pdf; OstbergRes-
BldgHtPlanChangeMemol2-14-20.doc; OstbergRes-C1426 Sheet File Site Plan 12 14
20[51400].pdf
Hi Dave, Attached is the memo describing the changes made on the plans per our discussion and the sheets changes
were made on. Also attached is the Final Set of Revised plans for the Garco Building and Planning Departments with all
the changes noted in the memo. The elevations and sections have the significant changes but there are minor changes
made on most of the sheets so the Ostberg's will be dropping off 2 sets of the attached plans for the county. bruce
Bruce Stolbach
Cadfish LLC
970-618-0230 cell
cadcodePhotmail.com email
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From: Bruce Stolbach
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 2:36 PM
To: dargo@garfield-county.com
Cc: Steve Ostberg; Carla Ostberg
Subject: RE: Permit #BLRE-11-20-6571 - Building Ht. Problem
Hi Dave, Carla, Steve and I have been working together on the plans and at the site, and, have made revisions to the
main house plan to resolve the height issue. Please look them over and confirm that the house as now proposed is in
compliance. We will then bring in the revised hard copies the county needs. Thanks Bruce
Bruce Stolbach
Cadfish LLC
970-618-0230 cell
cadcode@hotmail.com email
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Carla Ostberg
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 10:25 AM
To: Bruce; Steve Ostberg
Subject: Fwd: Permit #BLRE-11-20-6571 - Building Ht. Problem
Hi Bruce,
Here are the comments from Garfield county. Looks like we need to figure out how to lose 3' 6" off
the height.
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TO: GARFIELD COUNTY BUILDING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENTS
RE: OSTBERG RESIDENCE — LOT 10 PINYON PEAKS SUBDIVISION
FROM: CARLA & STEVE OSTBERG, OWNER
970.309.5259 cell carla.ostbere- onail.com email
BRUCE STOLBACH, CADFISH LLC, DRAFTSMAN
970-618-0230 cell, cadcode(@,hotmail.com email
SUMMARY OF CHANGES TO PLANS FOR BUILDING HEIGHT COMPLIANCE AND
MINOR FLOOR PLAN AND WINDOW CHANGES
REVISED PLAN SET DATED 12/15/20
12/15/20
The following changes were made to the building design and building elevations to comply with the
Garfield County Building Height requirements for the project. In addition a few minor changes were
made to the project by the owner as we worke don the modifying the design for builkding height
compliance.
1. Garage is lowered 3'-0", garage floor to 6961 1 1/2" House is dropped 3'6", level 1 floor to 6965'-0.
See al Sections and Elevations Sheets A103, A105, A106.
2. MBR1 on lower level, floor framing is dropped and hung with joist hangers so drainage away from
building and down the site can be accomplished from MBR1 to and past garage. Sheets A102, S3.
3. Main house roof slope reduced to 6/12 from 7/12. See A103, A106.
4. The back wall of the Rec Room on Level 2 was dropped to 'T6" . See Sec. 2/A105.
5. MBR1 Roof dropped so ceiling height in MBR1 is not changed and provide additional head height
space for MBR2 gable end windows and MBR1 windows which were modified. See floor plans,
elevations, sections, and window schedule. A101, A102, A102, A104, A105, A106, S3 & S4 for header
changes
6. Bathroom fixtures in MBR1 and MBR2 Bathrooms rearranged. No new fixtures added. Sheets
A101, A102.
7. Upper level MBR2 exterior deck deleted. See A102, A103.
8. Mudroom mexterior door changed to 2-0 4-0 SH window. See A101, A104.
9. Revised site plan provided with average natural grade and T.O. Main Level 1 marked on site plan.